In light of the recent announcement of boxed sets of the original Star Trek (Region 2, but Region 1 sets are on their way next year), I found myself thinking of some of the fizzier nicknames for the shows.
Since Next Gen came out just a few years after the New Coke fiasco, the names Classic Trek and New Trek stuck. Early in DS9’s life I remember hearing someone refer to Diet Cherry Trek. Which leads to an obvious question:
What types of soft drink are Voyager and Enterprise?
I’d have to say Voyager is 25 cent generic cola and Enterprise is carbonated water.
I was just talking with Katie, and we started thinking about other sci-fi shows: Babylon 5 would have to be Pepsi, because of the intense Trek/B5 rivalry, and Farscape would have to be something like Mountain Dew or Dr. Pepper, because it’s so different from either of the other series.
I’d say Mountain Dew, what with all that caffeine, and all the crazy stuff that happens.
I suppose Harry Potter is Sprite, LOTR is 7-up. . .
Hey…….I like 25-cent generic soda.
The books-first category has to be more expandable than just clear sodas. LOTR as Nehi Orange and Harry Potter as Cactus Cooler? Or maybe Shasta?
…..and if B5 is Pepsi, what happens to Moxie?
Well, in a lot of ways, I liked Voyager. But ultimately. it was cheap, and there’s much better stuff out there.
I suppose that makes Doctor Who a Supermarket brand cola then.
I don’t actually think Farscape is that different. It’s the same ingredients as, say, Voyager, but done in a completely different way.
Two or three of the same ingredients, anyway. Most of the ingredients are different.
I don’t know. Thomas Kinkade and Salvador Dali both use paint, and both have painted landscapes, but the end results are vastly different.
I only watched Voyager occasionally, but Farscape would regularly do things that no Trek would even consider.
That’s what I mean. But to say that Farscape as a formula is any different from Voyager (which I haven’t watched that devotedly either), just isn’t true.
Voyager and Farscape have two things in common:
1. They take place on starships.
2. The crews are lost in space looking for home.
That’s it. They’re much more different than the same, when it comes to character, plot, setting, pacing, costumes, special effects, make up, acting, directing, casting, you name it. What similarities there are between the shows are trivial and have practically nothing to do with what happens from one episode to the next.
Pick ANY one episode of each show, compare the two, and you’ll find the differences far outweigh the similarities.
You misunderstand me. My point is, if Gene Roddenberry made Farscape, you’d get Voyager. If the makers of Farscape made Voyager, you’d get Farscape. What makes Farscape brilliant and unique is not the formula itself, but the people who make it.
Okay. That’s better.
I guess the misunderstanding stems from the term “the formula,” which is vague and doesn’t really identify what part of the show you’re talking about.
By the way, Gene Roddenberry had nothing to do with Voyager. His contributions to Star Trek were higher quality.
What’s wrong with Voyager? (I haven’t seen the last three seasons)
Well, for one thing, it wasn’t interesting enough to compel you to watch the last three seasons.
For another, the characters were simplistic and bland. As was the storytelling.
It’s no worse than Enterprise.
That’s not saying much.
Well, I sat down and tried to think of something good about Voyager. I couldn’t.
Seven of Nine was fun to look at.
Reasons to like Voyager:
1. The holographic Doctor.
3. The Borg
4. Seven of Nine
5. The crew
1. The holographic Doctor–Yes, at first, and only occasionally thereafter, but the writers did a poor job of developing his character, so he was basically little more than the same schtick every time he showed up. Neurotic Data with more ego and less intellect.
2. Janeway–In concept, yes. In execution, no. Ultimately, she was little more than the person who made the decisions.
3. The Borg–They were much scarier in Next Gen.
4. Seven of Nine–No argument there.
5. The crew–This was perhaps the worst written crew of any Star Trek show ever. They were all simplistic and one dimensional cliches. Janeway, the bossy captain; Chakotay, the level-headed first officer; Paris, the thrill-seeking pilot; Torres, the temperamental Klingon; Doctor, the curmudgeonly doctor; Tuvok, the serious Vulcan; Neelix, the obnoxious pep-talker; Kim, the timid newbie; Kes, the wide-eyed child. Blah. Even when these characters “developed,” it was from one simple cliche to another. Boring boring boring.
The Borg are a crass copy of the Cybermen.
“Neelix, the obnoxious pep-talker; Kim, the timid newbie; Kes, the wide-eyed child.” There you go, all those characters sucked, and watching them gave me physical pain.